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Should other parties like the Turkish AKP, Iraqi [[SIIC], Islamic Dawa Party, Islamic Virtue Party, Moroccan PJD and Bahraini al-Watan parties be included? Should orgs be listed by country? AndrewRT(Talk) 00:49, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-13T00:49:00.000Z","author":"AndrewRT","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AndrewRT-2007-09-13T00:49:00.000Z-Template:Islamism","replies":["c-Bless_sins-2008-11-22T02:59:00.000Z-AndrewRT-2007-09-13T00:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't really think we can include a list of "islamic conepts" in this template. This is because Islamists discuss almost all concepts, from spiritual to tmeporal, from economics to sex, including the major tenets of Islam and its major texts.Bless sins (talk) 02:59, 22 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-22T02:59:00.000Z","author":"Bless sins","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Bless_sins-2008-11-22T02:59:00.000Z-AndrewRT-2007-09-13T00:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I noticed that Muhammad Asad, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Sheikh Usthaz M.A.M.Mansoor are included on the template. Islamism doesn't seem to be mentioned in the articles on these individuals. Plus, the first was a Qur'an translator, the second is the prime minister of Turkey and the third appears to be an academic; on what basis are they included here? MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:55, 12 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-12T04:55:00.000Z","author":"MezzoMezzo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MezzoMezzo-2013-03-12T04:55:00.000Z-Islamists","replies":[]}}-->

I agree with your concerns. Erdogan has publicly proclaimed himself to be a secularist and even promoted secularism during his visit to Egypt, much to the annoyance of the Muslim Brotherhood who are real islamists. The AKP has secularism in its party manifesto too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.231.86.31 (talk) 14:06, 22 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-22T14:06:00.000Z","author":"123.231.86.31","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-123.231.86.31-2013-03-22T14:06:00.000Z-Islamists","replies":[]}}-->

I have to disagree about Erdogan. From an event 2013 Egypt revolution, Erdogan had shown his support for the Muslim Brotherhood. He said, he did not support the revolution. And he mentioned that the act of that military takeover was an act of tyrany. He's rejecting any replacement appointed by the military. While for some others individuals mentioned, only a few numbers are actually wahhabists; while the others are NOT wahhabist. It seemed, just because there were revolutions involved, these individuals are wahhabist? Example: Said Nursi. He never supported revolutions. Then Mustafa Kamel Ataturk or Ataturk toppled the existing government through his secular movements. How can you call him a wahhabist? Yes. The existing king may had done something wrong. But the act of tyranny after the post-revolution didn't make him better. In one unrecorded source, he instructed the military to burn the scholars on a train while him and his partners were drinking lustfully in another carriage. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.195.159.212 (talk) 18:38, 25 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-25T18:38:00.000Z","author":"210.195.159.212","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-210.195.159.212-2013-07-25T18:38:00.000Z-Islamists","replies":[]}}-->

Fatwa on terrorism is one person's view it has no historical significance or has had not even 1% impact on the ground .Hence removed.It is only a book Fatwa on Terrorism and Suicide Bombings.122.167.142.157 (talk) 05:23, 29 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-09-29T05:23:00.000Z","author":"122.167.142.157","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-122.167.142.157-2017-09-29T05:23:00.000Z-Fatwa_on_terrorism","replies":[]}}-->

I have added Islam and gender segregation under the concepts section because it is a key Islamist goal. Please discuss before removal.--125.25.135.162 (talk) 05:32, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-26T05:32:00.000Z","author":"125.25.135.162","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-125.25.135.162-2018-04-26T05:32:00.000Z-Islam_and_gender_segregation","replies":[]}}-->