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Hi there, Cyanochic, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to see you intend to help us along by improving our coverage of women in the life sciences. You have made a good start by already creating two biographies and we look forward to many more. You might find it useful to look through the guidance in our Primer. I've taken the liberty of adding the WiR user box to your user page. Please let me know if you run into any difficulties or need assistance. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 07:25, 1 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241001072500","author":"Ipigott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ipigott-20241001072500-Women_in_Red","replies":[]}}-->

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I've just marked the page Monica A. Driscoll as reviewed. Thank you for taking the time to write it! I've marked it as a "Start" class for now, but you said you'd like to expand it? That sounds like a great idea. Too few women academics have articles here, and it's lovely seeing somebody closing the gap.

And, personally, I love the idea that we live in an age where somebody can put 3,600 worms in a rocket and do actual, scientific research on it. [1] Could you imagine telling that to our ancestors, hundreds of years ago? GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 23:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002235300","author":"GreenLipstickLesbian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GreenLipstickLesbian-20241002235300-Monica_A._Driscoll","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241003000300-GreenLipstickLesbian-20241002235300"]}}-->

Thank you for reviewing and cleaning it up some! I ran out of time and had to shut down my computer to rush to a meeting but I figured it was in a good enough state to hit go. (Hence publishing in a slightly unfinished state.) Cyanochic (talk) 00:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241003000300","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241003000300-GreenLipstickLesbian-20241002235300","replies":[]}}-->

After responding to your post at the Teahouse, I took a look at your list of "to-dos" from the NAS scientists. You may find it helpful that some are already listed at Wikidata and if they had articles in any foreign-language sources, the Wikidata item would show that and may show other links, e.g. to ORCHID. You can even Wikilink to such items, using the {{ill}} template. Hence Barry Ganetzky [Wikidata], for example. (See source code for details.) I'm a Brit, so if you are looking to expand your redlist, you can always look for anyone who is/was an FRS. Best of luck! Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:59, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241004155900","author":"Michael D. Turnbull","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241004155900-NAS_Scientists","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241004183600-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241004155900"],"displayName":"Mike Turnbull"}}-->

Ah thank you for this tip! I've been trying pretty hard to make sure no red links are for a page that actually exists, but I hadn't thoguht about searching Wikidata or other language Wikipedias for other information yet. I only just started to understand Wikidata through the authority control template recently. Maybe I'll turn to FRS after finishing NAS lists :) Cyanochic (talk) 18:36, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241004183600","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241004183600-Michael_D._Turnbull-20241004155900","replies":[]}}-->

If there is anything that I can do to assist you with navigating Wikipedia processes, please let me know. You are doing good work, and I thank you for it. Cullen328 (talk) 09:11, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007091100","author":"Cullen328","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cullen328-20241007091100-Teahouse_followup","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241007142500-Cullen328-20241007091100"]}}-->

Thank you!! Cyanochic (talk) 14:25, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007142500","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241007142500-Cullen328-20241007091100","replies":["c-BusterD-20241021040100-Cyanochic-20241007142500"]}}-->

Echoing Cullen328's encouragement. Thanks for joining us. BusterD (talk) 04:01, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241021040100","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20241021040100-Cyanochic-20241007142500","replies":[]}}-->

In my long-term project to bring all vitamin articles to GA, I often found it necessary to make major cuts to text and references before adding better content, and to rename and reorder sections. I wish you good luck for your endeavors. P.S. I had a few GA efforts fail and then succeeded with second applications. David notMD (talk) 09:17, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007091700","author":"David notMD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-David_notMD-20241007091700-GA_effort","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241007142000-David_notMD-20241007091700"]}}-->

Good luck on your vitamin GA endeavors!! Cyanochic (talk) 14:20, 7 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241007142000","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241007142000-David_notMD-20241007091700","replies":["c-David_notMD-20241009023800-Cyanochic-20241007142000"]}}-->

Planning on submitting Vitamin E soon, then the daunting Vitamin D for last vitamin. I have also improve the nutrient minerals, but have no intentions toward raising those to GA. David notMD (talk) 02:38, 9 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241009023800","author":"David notMD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-David_notMD-20241009023800-Cyanochic-20241007142000","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I had a look at your Draft:Alice Elizabeth Louisa Melliss following a discussion about Articles for creation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Women in Red. I am not seeing Wikipedia:Notability so far as I can't find "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" and have asked at Women in Red to see if anyone can find any better sources. I see that Ipigott has already welcomed you to the project. I have added a source for her wedding. Generally it is best to check the subject is notable before starting an article, because if sources don't exist, you won't be able to find them later. TSventon (talk) 15:37, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010153700","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TSventon-20241010153700-Draft:Alice_Elizabeth_Louisa_Melliss","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241010162200-TSventon-20241010153700","c-Cyanochic-20241010162400-TSventon-20241010153700"]}}-->

Thanks for letting me know! When I started the article, I was on the fence about whether or not she would be notable enough. My one thought was that Saint Helena isn't a large location and her plates from the book were all on Wikimedia already and stamps with her art were released by Saint Helena Post Office. I submitted to AfC instead of just publishing because I wasn't sure if she would be notable enough, so won't be too bummed if consensus is no. Cyanochic (talk) 16:22, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010162200","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241010162200-TSventon-20241010153700","replies":[]}}-->

In general it seems like the Melliss family had a large contribution on Saint Helena, so if the result is not notable enough. Maybe text I worked on there gets incorporated into another article. (Like her husband's page, which is where Alice Elizabeth Louisa Melliss redirects to now.) Cyanochic (talk) 16:24, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010162400","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241010162400-TSventon-20241010153700","replies":["c-TSventon-20241010165700-Cyanochic-20241010162400","c-TSventon-20241013155300-Cyanochic-20241010162400"]}}-->

I agree that if it isn't accepted, the coverage of Alice M in John Charles Melliss's article should be improved. Anyway, more sources may turn up, or she may be notable under another criterion. Your article reminded me of another woman illustrator, Adèle de Dombasle, who was researched by a project called Pacific Matildas. TSventon (talk) 16:57, 10 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241010165700","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TSventon-20241010165700-Cyanochic-20241010162400","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I have been looking at the images in St. Helena and they seem to have various authors. Could you check the draft? Alice is credited with botanical plates on the title page and the only stamp in Commons:Category:Alice Elizabeth Louisa Melliss is the Mellissia Begonifolia one. The beetle seems to be by J. C. Mellis, see the original on Commons, Commons:File:MELLISS(1875) p205 - PLATE 23.jpg. TSventon (talk) 15:53, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241013155300","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TSventon-20241013155300-Cyanochic-20241010162400","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241013182200-TSventon-20241013155300"]}}-->

Oh good catch! I updated the image on the draft at least to the image you referenced. I might have time later today to look into more references, but I'm not sure how much I'll be able to get to with archive.org still down. Cyanochic (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241013182200","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241013182200-TSventon-20241013155300","replies":["c-TSventon-20241013224100-Cyanochic-20241013182200"]}}-->

I found St.Helena here on Google books. The original pictures for the stamps are all in Commons:Category:St. Helena - a physical, historical, and topographical description of the island (1875) by MELLISS. Hopefully archive.org will be back eventually. TSventon (talk) 22:41, 13 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241013224100","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-TSventon-20241013224100-Cyanochic-20241013182200","replies":["c-TSventon-20241014191700-TSventon-20241013224100"]}}-->

Now published through AfC. More sources would still be good if they turn up. TSventon (talk) 19:17, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014191700","author":"TSventon","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-TSventon-20241014191700-TSventon-20241013224100","replies":["c-Cyanochic-20241014192300-TSventon-20241014191700"]}}-->

Thank you for the heads up! I'm using a work break to compile notes on the species drawn by A. Melliss in the 1875 book that I'll share on the talk page shortly to hopefully improve the article. After that I may wait to see what happens with archive.org before trying to dig any deeper. Cyanochic (talk) 19:23, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241014192300","author":"Cyanochic","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Cyanochic-20241014192300-TSventon-20241014191700","replies":[]}}-->

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