User talk:Paladium

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Hello, Paladium. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Avril Lavigne Bandaids".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Puffin ^{Let's talk!} 14:44, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-06-25T14:44:00.000Z","author":"Puffin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Puffin-2016-06-25T14:44:00.000Z-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Avril_Lavigne_Bandaids","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Paladium. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "Avril Lavigne Bandaids".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 00:32, 12 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-01-12T00:32:00.000Z","author":"1989","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-1989-2017-01-12T00:32:00.000Z-Your_draft_article,_Draft:Avril_Lavigne_Bandaids_2","replies":[]}}-->

On the subject of the page, here's what i found out. Based on the certified sales in 2009 (15 years ago) and comparing them to today. Since all three acts are behind on Digital singles, this is mostly pure sales

The Beatles had certified sales of 190 million in the United States at the time, they've now sold 27,000,000 units since then in the US and gained 71,000,000 units worldwide, putting their certified sales at 294 million.

Elvis Presley was certified for sales of 188 Million worldwide (176 Million in the US) in 2009, today he stands at 234 million certified units meaning he either sold 40 million since then or they retroactively certified outdated units

Elvis in 1971 was claimed to have sold 160 million records, with The Guardian reporting that he had 260 million when he died. The Beatles were claimed to have sold 200 million when Elvis Presley died.

Based on this we can estimate that their certified sales would be behind 200 million of their actual sales, so Elvis Presley's certified sales of 234 million would be equal to 434,000,000 records

For The Beatles, their certified sales of 294 million are equal to 494,000,000 records. With how high the Beatles streams are, it's certain that they will gain another 20-30 million digital singles with a certification. Whereas with Presley his streaming numbers are low, so it's unlikely he'll gain anymore

In Short, for the certified sales of Elvis and the Beatles add 200 million to get real sales figures.

No discussion needs to be made on Jackson as a consensus was already made to put him at 500 million, however we have more recent sources stating he's sold 500 million that could be added to his page. The claims of him selling 750 million units was never disputed, only if it meant albums. What those claims actually meant was Combining Michael's individual sales with the Jacksons / Jackson 5 sales, The Beatles claims of 600 million plus also makes sense when viewing it as a combination of Every Beatles member plus the Group Never17 (talk) 05:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240528055500","author":"Never17","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Never17-20240528055500-List_of_Best_Selling_Artists","replies":["c-Paladium-20240528135400-Never17-20240528055500"]}}-->

Thanks for doing the research. I think the album sales of different music acts should be kept separated under each name. Paladium (talk) 13:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240528135400","author":"Paladium","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Paladium-20240528135400-Never17-20240528055500","replies":["c-Never17-20240528182400-Paladium-20240528135400"]}}-->

Absolutely, i was just clarifying what those claims were referring too. Never17 (talk) 18:24, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240528182400","author":"Never17","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Never17-20240528182400-Paladium-20240528135400","replies":[]}}-->