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User talk:Kolyma/2016

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故意曲解、斷章取義是維基討論應有的作風嗎?

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懂得中文的人都應該知道,「且當什麼什麼」、「就當是什麼什麼」,即是說「哪怕退一步說,暫且就當成(或假設成)是什麼什麼」的意思,絕不是認同「什麼什麼」是事實。閣下故意曲解、斷章取義,截去「且當」二字,這是冤枉他人的嘴巴,而且做得十分低階。請問這就維基討論應有的作風嗎?Tvb10data留言2016年1月1日 (五) 12:25 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-01T12:25:00.000Z","author":"Tvb10data","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tvb10data-2016-01-01T12:25:00.000Z-\u6545\u610f\u66f2\u89e3\u3001\u65b7\u7ae0\u53d6\u7fa9\u662f\u7dad\u57fa\u8a0e\u8ad6\u61c9\u6709\u7684\u4f5c\u98a8\u55ce\uff1f","replies":[]}}-->

有關開新分段

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因為所說的實際內容是很不同的topic,我又分別反駁,添加分段會避免內容太混亂「炒埋一碟」。或許應作怎樣的修改或說明? —以上未簽名的留言由Tvb10data對話貢獻)於2016年1月1日 (五) 12:50加入。

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機器人程式誤判

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这种东西不要简单拿掉就完事,通常是有其他问题需要处理的[1][2]Liangent留言 2016年1月7日 (四) 21:31 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-07T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Liangent","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liangent-2016-01-07T21:31:00.000Z-\u6a5f\u5668\u4eba\u7a0b\u5f0f\u8aa4\u5224","replies":[]}}-->

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列印維基百科

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Kolyma兄您好,Print Wikipedia條目是由一個小朋友利用Google翻譯英文版條目,全文貼上而建立的。您沒動到的參考文獻的生硬標題就是機器翻譯的遺跡。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年1月11日 (一) 11:19 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-11T11:19:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-11T11:19:00.000Z-\u5217\u5370\u7dad\u57fa\u767e\u79d1","replies":[]}}-->

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提報關注度不足過期提醒:TDA

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 閣下曾提報不符合關注度指引之條目「TDA」已過限期,如閣下認為該條目現時尚未合乎關注度標準,可作提刪。 --Cewbot留言2016年1月11日 (一) 20:28 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-11T20:28:00.000Z","author":"Cewbot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cewbot-2016-01-11T20:28:00.000Z-\u63d0\u5831\u95dc\u6ce8\u5ea6\u4e0d\u8db3\u904e\u671f\u63d0\u9192:TDA","replies":[]}}-->

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文件不能移动?

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维基百科:移动请求写的是

请在相关页面(非其讨论页)顶部加入下面代码以提出请求:如页面为条目、维基计划页、文件:{{subst:Move/auto|新名稱}}

里面明确包含“文件”。不知你说无效是什么意思。——忱鸞留言? 2016年1月15日 (五) 10:20 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T10:20:00.000Z","author":"Li Chao","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Li_Chao-2016-01-15T10:20:00.000Z-\u6587\u4ef6\u4e0d\u80fd\u79fb\u52a8\uff1f","replies":["c-Li_Chao-2016-01-15T12:42:00.000Z-Li_Chao-2016-01-15T10:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5ff1\u9e1e"}}-->

哎不是亲,你是管理员吗?不是的话你这么“热心”的处理申请也没啥必要吧。至于非文件的移动,我们自动确认级别以上的用户可以自己完成,也不用劳驾管理员。——忱鸞留言? 2016年1月15日 (五) 12:42 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-15T12:42:00.000Z","author":"Li Chao","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Li_Chao-2016-01-15T12:42:00.000Z-Li_Chao-2016-01-15T10:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5ff1\u9e1e"}}-->
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意見徵詢

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Kolyma兄您好,我是Jasonzhuocn,我想提名你為管理員。我已經向多人徵詢對你的意見,眾人皆認為你是很合適的人選,多次徵詢中沒有得到反對意見。希望你可以接受邀請。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年1月16日 (六) 06:02 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-16T06:02:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T06:02:00.000Z-\u610f\u898b\u5fb5\u8a62","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T14:06:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T06:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

沒關係,您先草擬一下三個預設問題的回答,以您方便的時間為主。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年1月16日 (六) 14:06 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-16T14:06:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T14:06:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T06:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-31T04:47:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T14:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
請問您方便嗎?您有空就開始囉。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年1月31日 (日) 04:47 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-01-31T04:47:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-31T04:47:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-16T14:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-02-04T06:10:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-31T04:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
您好,我提名了。如果年假期間沒空回答RFA提問,擇要選答就好。祝順利。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年2月4日 (四) 06:10 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-04T06:10:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-02-04T06:10:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-01-31T04:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-02-05T06:49:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-02-04T06:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
您要在3天內去頁面簽名同意,否則視同不接受,程序會中止。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年2月5日 (五) 06:49 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-05T06:49:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-02-05T06:49:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-02-04T06:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Wikipedia:申请成为管理人员#Kolyma

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你從以前就該當管理員了,只是你都拒絕。提名人有說到:「08年開始參與中文維基百科,貢獻了不少地理及人物條目。後來投入清理工作,清理時願意與其他用戶協調和溝通,在這方面下的功夫很深。」地理,他並沒有特地指出你是在臺灣地理類,當中還包括地形、河川(含水圳)、山岳、湖泊(含水庫)、風景區、森林遊樂區、地名聚落、行政區劃(不含清治、日治),其中又以你在河川、山岳這類條目貢獻居多;人物,他並沒有特地指出你是在臺灣人物類,當中還包括當今的體育界、政治界以及日治時期的人物。此外,提名人還漏掉你貢獻條目尚有臺灣歷史類(包括戰役、古蹟、清治日治的行政區劃)、臺灣交通類、臺灣經濟類、臺灣體育類(不含人物)、臺灣文化類……等繁多,而且你還協助許多條目建立消歧義,另加上長期以來你在分類上工作,何止是提名人所說這些。倘若排除清理、分類、消歧義這些瑣碎工作,你光是投入在臺灣類條目的貢獻,累積加起來就超過1000筆,由於當中有部分條目並非臺灣類,或者是列表而非條目,否則早就可以累積達到1500筆,如此看來你的編輯紀錄中1643筆,貢獻於臺灣類條目就已經佔了至少是六成以上,你可真是謂熱衷於臺灣的維基人,無論是被提名為管理員,還是臺灣特別貢獻,你都是當之無愧的,猜想可能「之前風波」或「經驗不足」才會拒絕當管理員吧?--114.46.245.64留言2016年2月12日 (五) 14:31 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-12T14:31:00.000Z","author":"114.46.245.64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:31:00.000Z-Wikipedia:\u7533\u8bf7\u6210\u4e3a\u7ba1\u7406\u4eba\u5458#Kolyma","replies":["c-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:49:00.000Z-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

至於是什麼風波,有關注臺灣地理的維基人都應該會知道,自從這條目在2010年4月1日被創建後,卻等到2010年10月17日被發現內容有爭議,然而連續討論了三個月都還沒有一致可認同的答案,就連找大學教授、地理專家都不管用,這樣子爭議放在整個維基百科全部地理的條目來看,仍算是相當罕見,也難怪很多維基人都不敢去碰這種爭議的討論,對誰來說都可謂「風波」。--114.46.245.64留言2016年2月12日 (五) 14:49 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-12T14:49:00.000Z","author":"114.46.245.64","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:49:00.000Z-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-02-12T15:32:00.000Z-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
謝謝!您也貢獻很多;而且您寫的條目質量俱佳,搜集資料也很用心。--Kolyma留言) 2016年2月12日 (五) 15:32 (UTC)--Kolyma留言2016年2月13日 (六) 02:41 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-12T15:32:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-02-12T15:32:00.000Z-114.46.245.64-2016-02-12T14:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

雖然我在維基百科上行蹤是一下子出現活躍、一下子沉寂消失很久,但我看的出來你是從我那麼多條目上內容寫法、關注領域以及討論發言上風格,加上這些條目類型上領域剛好是你關注,你也知道哪些人在過去曾與你有過交集,也難怪你仍然可以知道我在「哪些人」是何人。--114.46.13.64留言2016年2月16日 (二) 14:29 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z","author":"114.46.13.64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.46.13.64-2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z-Wikipedia:\u7533\u8bf7\u6210\u4e3a\u7ba1\u7406\u4eba\u5458#Kolyma","replies":["c-114.46.13.64-2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z-114.46.13.64-2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

你自己也看的出來,我在條目上與你的是不一樣的世界,因為我與你之間在風格與要求都不同,如同你說搜集資料,一樣都在寫條目,差別是自己風格與要求都不同(也有人說是想法個性問題),所以你是「量」比較多,但我是採取「質」比較高,更龜毛地來說,我是在一個條目裡特定幾個章節較用心,其它都與你一樣相同水平,貢獻上的我仍遠不及你在條目「質」、「量」。易懂的比喻,你屬於分散式動力列車(像自強號),所以條目的質維持一定程度,而能將條目數量提升很多;我屬於集中式動力列車(像莒光號),所以條目的質維持一定集中在特定章節裡,為了將條目裡全部內容能都與特定章節維持相同水平,條目數量上明顯不能增快。--114.46.13.64留言2016年2月16日 (二) 14:29 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z","author":"114.46.13.64","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-114.46.13.64-2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z-114.46.13.64-2016-02-16T14:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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恭喜當選! 哀悼香港沉淪的Carrotkit 2016年2月19日 (五) 09:18 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-19T09:18:00.000Z","author":"Carrotkit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Carrotkit-2016-02-19T09:18:00.000Z-\u9001\u60a8\u4e00\u982d\u540c\u985e","replies":[]}}-->
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您好,想請教如何改善條目品質

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Kolyma,您好:

我是"關愛之家再興社區案"條目的編寫人,由於這是我第一次獨立從頭到尾的撰寫條目,寫完後收到了"本條目可能過多或不當地使用了受版權保護的文字、圖片及多媒體檔案。"的通知。因而想請教您如何改進我的條目。再撰寫本條目的時候,我盡可能地為每一段話都找到出處,如果是對話或新聞引言或判決也會從自己的觀點出發改寫,整段照錄時也會加上引號,不曉得這樣的寫作方法有什麼問題?身為寫作新手,還望您斧正,感激不盡。

敬祝 研安

上官鴻信 敬上 --上官鴻信留言2016年2月23日 (二) 15:49 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-23T15:49:00.000Z","author":"\u4e0a\u5b98\u9d3b\u4fe1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u4e0a\u5b98\u9d3b\u4fe1-2016-02-23T15:49:00.000Z-\u60a8\u597d\uff0c\u60f3\u8acb\u6559\u5982\u4f55\u6539\u5584\u689d\u76ee\u54c1\u8cea","replies":[]}}-->

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用戶Csf1996來函

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不好意思,因為是用智慧型手機所打出來的,有的無法更改,所有陣頭團隊全部都我所打出來的,為何你要從大甲鎮瀾宮移除到大甲媽祖遶境活動裡,我上次打出來就被刪除了,為何又要更改?這些都是從社群網路所查的,我打的不好是不是啦?! csf1996留言2016年2月27日 (六) 03:32 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T03:32:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-02-27T03:32:00.000Z-\u7528\u6236Csf1996\u4f86\u51fd","replies":[]}}-->

那你是憑什麼要移除啦!你是多了不起啦!你也沒經過我同意就移除啊! csf1996留言2016年2月27日 (六) 03:43 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T03:43:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-02-27T03:43:00.000Z-\u7528\u6236Csf1996\u4f86\u51fd","replies":[]}}-->

哇~靠,我每次編輯都會說侵權或授權,然後刪掉,讓我的心理不是滋味,有點很激動,好好,我知道了。 csf1996留言2016年2月27日 (六) 03:57 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T03:57:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-02-27T03:57:00.000Z-\u7528\u6236Csf1996\u4f86\u51fd","replies":[]}}-->

歌詞的條目,統統都是不能打,也不能恢復哦!那別人要編輯什麼? csf1996留言2016年2月27日 (六) 04:13 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T04:13:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-02-27T04:13:00.000Z-\u7528\u6236Csf1996\u4f86\u51fd","replies":[]}}-->

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目前許多同類條目皆有

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  • 先不論該表是否過度統計,但「目前許多同類條目皆有」這個理由不太好吧?中文維基上就是充斥了一堆不符方針指引或格式手冊的內容,然後又互相抄襲格式,導致惡性循環不可收拾;當要清理時,又往往人力不足只能清理部分條目,這時常常會被以「目前許多同類條目皆有」甚至「要清理請把上百上千個同類條目都清理」這類理由回絕而導致清理困難。到最後,反而那些老手寫的符合格式的條目變成異類,還看過被IP使用者把對的格式改成錯的,並宣稱「目前許多同類條目皆如此」。所以我認為「目前許多同類條目皆有」這種理由不該使用,英文維基那邊有一篇關於這理由的論述,最近我看有沒有空把它翻譯過來--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月27日 (六) 17:45 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T17:45:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:45:00.000Z-\u76ee\u524d\u8a31\u591a\u540c\u985e\u689d\u76ee\u7686\u6709","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:51:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:45:00.000Z","c-Liaon98-2016-02-27T18:08:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:45:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • 可是閣下的「見仁見智」後面是句點,跟「目前許多同類條目皆有」是不同句話;我對閣下發言的認知是「是否是過度統計」這件事見仁見智(因為是用逗點連接的同句話);而不是句點後面那句「目前許多同類條目皆有」這件事見仁見智。--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月27日 (六) 17:51 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T17:51:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:51:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
  • 主要是,因為閣下是管理員、編輯專家,我很怕那些新人會以閣下這句話來說嘴,之後要清理就會很麻煩....人物介紹那個跟他們打過好幾次編輯戰了,但加入的速度太快了,後來我也放棄了。電視劇條目大概是中文維基上堆積最多細節垃圾的條目....ACG條目都還要讓賢--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月27日 (六) 18:08 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T18:08:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-27T18:08:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-27T17:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
  • 甘味人生我多少有幫忙整理過。其他還有很多更慘的電視劇條目,尤其是那種演好幾年的八點檔,世間情大概我看過最嚴重的--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月27日 (六) 22:01 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-27T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-27T22:01:00.000Z-\u76ee\u524d\u8a31\u591a\u540c\u985e\u689d\u76ee\u7686\u6709","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-02-28T03:22:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-27T22:01:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • 甘味人生那,我是直接把登場集數直接刪掉,我認為這是愛好者內容、資料庫內容,只有該齣電視劇的粉絲才會想知道(甚至只是看該齣的一小部分人),對絕大多數人都是無用資料;直接以人物介紹中的的人物在劇情何處出現就足夠了。世間情的「現況」欄位更是奇怪,Wikipedia:不要倉促編輯,電視劇一演完,該欄位就沒有用了,最後人物是死是活都直接放介紹的劇情就夠了。另外還有電視前後框,甘味人生花了很大的功夫才把它寫為散文化,不然電視劇條目總是塞滿滿播出時間,甚至重播也列入...而且播出時間我記得以前有討論過,似乎是不建議加入的。總之,甘味人生我若未介入,最後也會長得跟世間情一樣的....另外IP使用者跟電視劇的常見編者並不習慣這樣的格式,跟我打了好多次編輯戰,最後他們還自己跑去建了沙盒頁...User:喜小羊羊/fourth--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月28日 (日) 03:22 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T03:22:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-28T03:22:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-27T22:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-02-28T13:32:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-28T03:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • 這也是為啥格式手冊不建議點列,建議盡量散文書寫的原因吧。美式電視劇很多都是翻譯英文維基,英文維基那邊的指引已經非常完善,也有很多專題參與者在巡,所以水準才會好--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月28日 (日) 13:32 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T13:32:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-28T13:32:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-28T03:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
  • 惡性循環是很明顯的,我和我的十七歲,一個還沒上映剛開條目的電視劇,格式從一開始就是長那個樣子,無可避免最後就會長成世間情那樣--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月29日 (一) 07:04 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T07:04:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-29T07:04:00.000Z-\u76ee\u524d\u8a31\u591a\u540c\u985e\u689d\u76ee\u7686\u6709","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-02-29T16:45:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-29T07:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • 也許前一檔比較不熱門XD? 不過前一檔好像侵權過,被刪了很多東西--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年2月29日 (一) 16:45 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T16:45:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-02-29T16:45:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-02-29T07:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
而且移除內容或修正格式,很快就會被改回來(我在甘味人生條目的體驗),如閣下之前清理我和我的十七歲的內容又被加回了。--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年3月1日 (二) 23:18 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-01T23:18:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-03-01T23:18:00.000Z-\u76ee\u524d\u8a31\u591a\u540c\u985e\u689d\u76ee\u7686\u6709","replies":[]}}-->
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勤奋星章
辛勤清理的人很辛苦。 Stang 16 2016年2月28日 (日) 04:04 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T04:04:00.000Z","author":"Cosine02","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cosine02-2016-02-28T04:04:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_3","replies":[]}}-->
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RE:有關張景嵐條目的清理模板

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您好,我看您已經處理了,網路那一章節感覺只是將有張景嵐出現過的網頁貼上去而已? --Jym留言2016年2月28日 (日) 11:03 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T11:03:00.000Z","author":"Jym","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jym-2016-02-28T11:03:00.000Z-RE:\u6709\u95dc\u5f35\u666f\u5d50\u689d\u76ee\u7684\u6e05\u7406\u6a21\u677f","replies":["c-Jym-2016-02-29T09:40:00.000Z-Jym-2016-02-28T11:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

感謝--Jym留言2016年2月29日 (一) 09:40 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-29T09:40:00.000Z","author":"Jym","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jym-2016-02-29T09:40:00.000Z-Jym-2016-02-28T11:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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問 派台歌曲

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請教我在條目探討的問題! 是要再發一次的意思嘛? 因為我看不太懂訊息的意思XDD 再麻煩解答Zenk0113留言2016年2月28日 (日) 14:02 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T14:02:00.000Z","author":"Zenk0113","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zenk0113-2016-02-28T14:02:00.000Z-\u554f_\u6d3e\u53f0\u6b4c\u66f2","replies":["c-Zenk0113-2016-02-28T14:29:00.000Z-Zenk0113-2016-02-28T14:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

感謝解答! Zenk0113留言2016年2月28日 (日) 14:29 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-02-28T14:29:00.000Z","author":"Zenk0113","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Zenk0113-2016-02-28T14:29:00.000Z-Zenk0113-2016-02-28T14:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hklacrosse來函

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Kolyma 您好, 我看見你為LACROSSE 有關的字條作出不少的貢獻及定時維護, 但有一個事項想跟您分享及討論:

FIL, Federation of International Lacrosse, 在2015年已經將 lacrosse 的中文名稱正式定為棍網球. 在更改你的貢獻前, 我認為先跟您討論會較合適 1) 您對把 袋棍球 改回 棍網球 有何意見? 2) 如同意修改, 你會反對由我來修改嗎? 3) 在修改的同時, 我認為須要把 FIL 定義 LACROSSE 的中文名稱一事加到內容中, 您同意嗎?

Hklacrosse留言2016年3月4日 (五) 12:50 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-04T12:50:00.000Z","author":"Hklacrosse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hklacrosse-2016-03-04T12:50:00.000Z-Hklacrosse\u4f86\u51fd","replies":["c-Hklacrosse-2016-03-07T10:21:00.000Z-Hklacrosse-2016-03-04T12:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

資訊更正, 中國 (China), 香港 (Hong Kong), 新架波 (Singapore) 均透過 Asia Pacific Lacrosse Union 的協調將 lacrosse 的中文名稱正式定為棍網球. 由於當時台灣還沒有加入Asia Pacific Lacrosse Union, 所以沒有參與當時的討論.
http://www.asiapacificlacrosse.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/APLU-GM-Minutes-25June2013.pdf
所以現在台灣還是使用袋棍球為其中文名稱. "中華民國袋棍球運動協會 (http://www.taiwanlax.org/home2/) 現在是內政部核准的社團法人,本協會正積極於台北及台東學校推廣袋棍球運動。" (source: http://www.taiwanlax.org/history-1/)
對於 lacrosse 的中文名稱, 我認為可根據現況指出不同國家有不同的中文名稱, 你認為如何?
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多謝分享. 我將會在粵語的頁內使用NoteTA模板來處理. 結論是在大會後透過電郵得出的, 由於電郵內容不便公開, 只能從各地官方名稱中反映其結論
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Re:有關當個創世神事物列表條目

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用於章節。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 06:22 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z-Re:\u6709\u95dc\u7576\u500b\u5275\u4e16\u795e\u4e8b\u7269\u5217\u8868\u689d\u76ee","replies":["c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:23:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:24:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:56:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","c-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:27:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->

  • (~)補充:能用#xxx跳過去。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 06:23 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T06:23:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:23:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
  • 這樣才不會造成目錄太長。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 06:24 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T06:24:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:24:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:37:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
    • (-)反对移除!!!,這樣才能做條目內連結。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 06:37 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T06:37:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:37:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:24:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
  • 世界邊界和邊境之地不是我寫的。我查了一下是每一個世界都有的結構之一,就是跑太遠程式錯誤造成的地區,疑似是ip用戶或新用戶加入的--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 06:56 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T06:56:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:56:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:03:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
    • 虛空指的是每個世界的最底層跟最頂層。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 07:03 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T07:03:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:03:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:56:00.000Z","replies":["c-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:10:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
      • 方塊的ID。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 07:10 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T07:10:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:10:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:03:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
  • 要隱藏某些章節(不是全部的章節)不在目錄中顯示,因為我目前找不到適合的方式,也沒有適合的魔術字可以使用,因此只能暫時先用html的id屬性來實現。--宇帆(留言·) 2016年3月12日 (六) 07:27 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-12T07:27:00.000Z","author":"A2569875","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-A2569875-2016-03-12T07:27:00.000Z-A2569875-2016-03-12T06:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5b87\u5e06"}}-->
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Photoyi

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侵權後重建(草稿:青春影展)(可能G16)

  1. 2014-11-30 http://archive.is/www.yff.org.tw/home02.aspx?ID=$1001&IDK=2&EXEC=L
  2. http://www.cdnews.com.tw/cdnews_site/docDetail.jsp?coluid=121&docid=102741838
請問不才該如何應對Photoyi??--凡夫2015留言2016年3月18日 (五) 15:42 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-18T15:42:00.000Z","author":"Jesus estw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jesus_estw-2016-03-18T15:42:00.000Z-Photoyi","replies":[],"displayName":"\u51e1\u592b2015"}}-->
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Photoyi侵權條目

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  1. 府中15新北市紀錄片放映院 编辑 | 讨论 | 历史 | 链接 | 监视 | 日志,請處理創建者「無故撤銷 - 回退至未侵權版本 」!
  2. Draft:台北當代藝術館 编辑 | 讨论 | 历史 | 链接 | 监视 | 日志,侵權(WP:RRD),原提報{{d|G16}}CV,惠請處理! --凡夫2015留言2016年3月20日 (日) 09:33 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-20T09:33:00.000Z","author":"Jesus estw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jesus_estw-2016-03-20T09:33:00.000Z-Photoyi\u4fb5\u6b0a\u689d\u76ee","replies":[],"displayName":"\u51e1\u592b2015"}}-->
  3. 南條史生,by me (udn news來源與內容有出入,與姓名及其他事物相關性較高,)、02-Nikon 広報誌「Nikon Today」Vol.83 Person 南條史生(真正有關連來源)by me03 --凡夫2015留言2016年3月20日 (日) 09:47 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-20T09:47:00.000Z","author":"Jesus estw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jesus_estw-2016-03-20T09:47:00.000Z-Photoyi\u4fb5\u6b0a\u689d\u76ee","replies":[],"displayName":"\u51e1\u592b2015"}}-->
  4. 金馬獎頒獎典禮,dead link , fixed !!
  5. 兩岸電影交流委員會,來源?!vc正確來源 by me (參見編輯歷史,Photoyi沒事刪除之)
  • 如果,Antigng與您真要幫忙Photoyi,請付出兩位心力,好好清理與善後,可以嗎?!--凡夫2015留言2016年3月20日 (日) 09:56 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-03-20T09:56:00.000Z","author":"Jesus estw","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jesus_estw-2016-03-20T09:56:00.000Z-Photoyi\u4fb5\u6b0a\u689d\u76ee","replies":[],"displayName":"\u51e1\u592b2015"}}-->
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維基百科的用戶討論頁也有共用的?

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請問這個討論頁是你的嗎?還是他的?怎會一個討論頁同時有二個人?維基百科通常不都是每一個人只擁有自己討論頁嗎?還有共用的這種?--36.233.184.69留言2016年4月12日 (二) 15:48 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-12T15:48:00.000Z","author":"36.233.184.69","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-36.233.184.69-2016-04-12T15:48:00.000Z-\u7dad\u57fa\u767e\u79d1\u7684\u7528\u6236\u8a0e\u8ad6\u9801\u4e5f\u6709\u5171\u7528\u7684\uff1f","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-04-12T16:04:00.000Z-36.233.184.69-2016-04-12T15:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

與我無關。--Kolyma留言2016年4月12日 (二) 16:04 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-12T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-04-12T16:04:00.000Z-36.233.184.69-2016-04-12T15:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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RE 高揚昇

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我編寫的部分! 只是覺得沒必要過度描述家人事蹟! 畢竟這是高先生本人的條目,但調整過後因為文字也不多了!所以覺得使用列表會比較清楚! 如果單純官職描述 沒特別事蹟的部分,我就把來源補充到列表旁邊而已!如果不OK 再改寫吧!我沒啥意見! 辛苦了! Zenk0113留言2016年4月15日 (五) 02:14 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-04-15T02:14:00.000Z","author":"Zenk0113","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zenk0113-2016-04-15T02:14:00.000Z-RE_\u9ad8\u63da\u6607","replies":[]}}-->

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回應你對二年前《臺灣島加個「本」字》討論的留言

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二年前在Wikipedia:互助客栈/条目探讨有討論《「臺灣島」與「臺灣本島」在用法上有何差別?臺灣島加個「本」字變臺灣本島有何意涵?》以下二個版本是你對該討論的留言:

那是因為你對人不對事,我只不過透過討論方式從中解惑,而且他們的回答也能同時為別人釋疑,因為誰無法確定是不是別人也與我沒有這樣疑惑,就算我不問,改天也可能別人有這問題會過來問,依照你這樣說,你也會這樣對他說的,所以相信這不是我一個人會不會誤解的問題。換言之,無論這種討論有沒有意義,你自己想不到,別人會想到,因為別人並不是你,所以你這樣說,只是因為你並不是別人(包括討論提問人
當時看到你這樣說,將「IP位置是在台北」做為根據,然後恣意得出結論「生在島國,這名詞再熟悉不過了,IP君硬要問,實在是……」,甚至連「消費大家的善意」這句話都說出來了,所以最後我並沒有繼續回應,以避免延續話題而使得討論下去,就是顧及到你對人不對事情況太嚴重了,深怕影響大家的討論。
實際上,這討論是除了釐清讀者誤解(我只是順便問),也可釐清是否有地域觀點或中立問題,而且也能讓對臺灣不瞭解的臺灣讀者或非臺灣人的讀者,可透過這討論去瞭解到「臺灣島」與「臺灣本島」之間有什麼用法上差別,「用法上差別」這問題在背後還可以涉及到政治與地理的討論,只是當時大家都只提及到臺灣人生活用語(口頭習慣),以及進一步解釋到以「臺灣」為概念,將本島與離島做為區別的稱呼。既然當時大家的討論,在這過程中回答有超過一半是已經足夠為讀者(以外的別人)釋疑,所以剩下問題沒有繼續討論,後來也沒有另開話題再重新討論。
由此可知,並不是因為我是住臺灣,也不是因為IP,更不是因為我喜歡問一些無意義的討論,只不過引人聯想才會有你說「消費大家的善意」這句話;如果正面去看待這討論,就能理解這不是消費大家的善意,甚至可以說完全沒有消費,可能換成不是臺灣人或旅居海外的人去問這問題,你就不會這樣感受,可是認為旅居海外也可能是臺灣人,查IP位置是不準確,那麼或其它住在臺灣的臺灣人有此問題想問,豈不是得特地搭飛機去海外才能問,所以才說你對人不對事情況太嚴重了。

或許你會覺得怎麼二年後現在才回應,除了是等待時機,先將你的情況緩和下來(當時討論不宜繼續),另一原因就是找機會再回來答覆,同時也可以供給其它人看,因為會有編輯紀錄可存留,這答覆可供後人看到Wikipedia:互助客栈/条目探讨討論做前後文對照,以釐清「我突然沒聲音」的詭異情況。--111.252.235.136留言2016年5月14日 (六) 17:38 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-05-14T17:38:00.000Z","author":"111.252.235.136","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-111.252.235.136-2016-05-14T17:38:00.000Z-\u56de\u61c9\u4f60\u5c0d\u4e8c\u5e74\u524d\u300a\u81fa\u7063\u5cf6\u52a0\u500b\u300c\u672c\u300d\u5b57\u300b\u8a0e\u8ad6\u7684\u7559\u8a00","replies":[]}}-->

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南勢角庄的快速删除通知

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興雅,是臺北市的一個舊地名

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我看你寫興雅,最初創建版本是這樣寫:「興雅,是臺北市的一個舊地名」。

不過,我觀察到有些條目是寫「地名」,但像你寫「舊地名」,請問這當中差別何在?新舊之分嗎?還是舊地名沒有在使用?地名為何不寫新地名,反而是舊地名才要多出一個「舊」字?雖然少用,但我還是看過有條目是寫「古地名」,這意思與用法也同於「舊地名」嗎?若不是,就是否指古地名遠比舊地名顯得存在的時間上更久遠,又或解釋說舊地名與地名只是時間上差異,無論遠近皆是,也可能當中有些地名是新舊同時並用的?很抱歉,我一時間疑惑太多,為求解而一次全問出來,若有空也就勞煩你費心逐一說明,不勞近日忙中抽空特地來解說。

因為這當中若差異不大,其實是可以不計較,反之有出入,無論差異大小,應該實是求是也需要去追求,很多對這方面(地名、舊地名、古地名)在文獻上甚少有區分明確,大多集中介紹語言差異、種族文化、民俗風情、地名源由、事發背景、調查發現……等出現於專載、書籍或學術文章。想來,有心去查也十分需要大量時間與管道才能有機會達到,單憑一人之力難以查到,畢竟這方面不像圖書館容易與其它民眾輕易翻查到的文獻。過去跑許多大學圖書館都甚少見到,若不使無功而返,只能將這方面(地名、舊地名、古地名)依現實考量,改為其次,也就所謂採取「有剛好翻到就順便查」方式進行,否則書海茫茫,實在一人難以負荷,說不定終生這問題查不到答案。--1.170.214.101留言2016年7月6日 (三) 14:37 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-06T14:37:00.000Z","author":"1.170.214.101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-1.170.214.101-2016-07-06T14:37:00.000Z-\u8208\u96c5\uff0c\u662f\u81fa\u5317\u5e02\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u820a\u5730\u540d","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-07-06T15:09:00.000Z-1.170.214.101-2016-07-06T14:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

現在比較罕見,故稱舊地名。--Kolyma留言2016年7月6日 (三) 15:09 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-06T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-07-06T15:09:00.000Z-1.170.214.101-2016-07-06T14:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-06T15:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
罕見?現在還存在著「興雅里」,而且當地也有興雅國中、興雅國小皆以「興雅」為校名,這似乎與你說的有出入,不知道你所謂罕見是根據什麼資料去分辨舊地名?我記得寫條目好像有規定來源不能光用口頭做為依據,所以相信你應該是有資料的。此外,臺灣有多存在的舊地名,現在不僅有保留著,而且也有使用中,尤其是像門牌號碼上,住家不會寫街道名稱,而是直接寫地名,比如:關原加油站地址是寫:「關原15號」,這與興雅一樣,地名都至今仍有使用,我不太能明白你說「罕見」是怎麼來的?你別誤會,我不是在反駁你,是不明白而再次詢問。--1.170.212.207留言
曾經搜尋過,至目前為止並無捷運站或公車站以「興雅」為名,本人生活上也未曾聽聞過有人使用該地名,故曰罕見。至於國中、小學名稱,除了當地耆老及研究台北市古地名者之外,有多少人知道與地名有關,值得探討。況且,查閱中央研究院的台灣歷史百年地圖網站,興雅國中根本就不在興雅庄,而是已落入五分埔庄境內。另外,已廢止的捷運信義松德站位於「信義路松德路口略東」,卻曾有人提議以「博愛興雅站」為站名,而該處還比興雅國中更遠離興雅庄。感覺上,提議者對興雅地名的認知,究竟是「興雅國中」,還是昔日的「興雅庄」,值得懷疑。倒是提議捷運「市政府站」改名「興雅站」者,還比較有概念。--Kolyma留言2016年7月8日 (五) 03:07 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-06T15:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:15:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z","c-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:19:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
不過既然仍有「興雅里」,而且範圍與台灣堡圖上標示的興雅聚落相近,我決定將「舊」字拿掉。--Kolyma留言2016年7月8日 (五) 03:15 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-08T03:15:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:15:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
謝謝您的意見。--Kolyma留言2016年7月8日 (五) 03:19 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-08T03:19:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:19:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-1.170.213.116-2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
原來你對舊地名的概念,是以「昔日之地(興雅庄、興雅莊)與今日之地(興雅)同為是當地」做為概念,並非是看學校、公車站、捷運站,那麼為何你說「罕見」卻以現在有無使用做為依據去判斷是舊地名呢?這樣前後不一的論點是顯得很矛盾的,值得懷疑。
因為我不是像你是用興雅庄範圍去對照今日的行政區,做為實地考察現場有無仍使用「興雅」去判斷是不是舊地名,我只是單純以現場的事物有無使用「興雅」做為判斷是不是舊地名,從你的方法來看,當然會懷疑我對興雅的認知是「興雅國中」還是「興雅庄」。但沒規定說,現代人非得照著古代人在哪裡用「興雅」,就只能在原地使用此稱,所以我不知道你有沒有考量到歷史因素,中間可能發生戰亂而遷移,或是地籍誤植,後人為紀念前人而將此稱對現今之地命名,這些因素都是有可能使「興雅」與古代的「興雅庄」、「興雅莊」都不在同一地方。以上只是提供線索,我沒拿出什麼資料來,如有說法出入,仍以資料記載為準。
假如有史實資料佐證,其實保留「舊」地名去解釋,這也無妨,不明白為什麼非堅持對「舊」字刪掉不可?此非我意,也非我詢問之目的,更非我有強迫你之故。如有誤會,麻煩請說開來,不用保留自己心中的想法與顧慮,這對雙方都有好處,增進彼此的溝通與知識上分享。謝謝!--1.170.213.116留言2016年7月9日 (六) 14:14 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z","author":"1.170.213.116","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-1.170.213.116-2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-07-08T03:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-07-09T14:47:00.000Z-1.170.213.116-2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z","c-Kolyma-2016-07-09T14:48:00.000Z-1.170.213.116-2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
堅持?閣下言重了。--Kolyma留言2016年7月9日 (六) 14:47 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-09T14:47:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-07-09T14:47:00.000Z-1.170.213.116-2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
此事重要性甚低,建議到此為止。--Kolyma留言2016年7月9日 (六) 14:48 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-09T14:48:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-07-09T14:48:00.000Z-1.170.213.116-2016-07-09T14:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

我反對!現已創建有很多條目是寫「臺北市的一個舊地名」也不只有興雅,別因為被人反映而迎合去除「舊」字,否則豈不這些條目都要改。--114.46.242.153留言2016年7月29日 (五) 12:07 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-29T12:07:00.000Z","author":"114.46.242.153","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.46.242.153-2016-07-29T12:07:00.000Z-\u8208\u96c5\uff0c\u662f\u81fa\u5317\u5e02\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u820a\u5730\u540d","replies":[]}}-->

@1.170.213.116地名、舊地名純屬個人上用字遣詞的問題,談不上有什麼問題;如果真認為有什麼值得需要討論的問題,麻煩請拿去Wikipedia:互助客栈/条目探讨向社群請益,而不是跑來向條目的作者提出要求。這種行為看來,似乎別人不聽你話就會哭鬧,給你糖吃才會乖(指安靜下來或是離開不去煩人家)。--114.46.242.153留言2016年7月29日 (五) 12:23 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-29T12:23:00.000Z","author":"114.46.242.153","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.46.242.153-2016-07-29T12:23:00.000Z-\u8208\u96c5\uff0c\u662f\u81fa\u5317\u5e02\u7684\u4e00\u500b\u820a\u5730\u540d","replies":[]}}-->

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沙崙 (新北市)

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新北市淡水區也有沙崙。可能要改一下標題?-和平、奮鬥、救地球!留言WikiNews2016年7月13日 (三) 12:20 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-13T12:20:00.000Z","author":"\u548c\u5e73-bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u548c\u5e73-bot-2016-07-13T12:20:00.000Z-\u6c99\u5d19_(\u65b0\u5317\u5e02)","replies":[]}}-->

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您好,看條目的文意,似乎是有個下坡角為名的大字存在,後改為村。新莊市志內有新泰分治前後的村里清單,沒有下坡角村或下坡角里。另外,新莊線丹鳳站及中正路以南的鈴木華城地號為下坡角,二省道最後通車路段也曾有文獻稱為下坡角。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年7月16日 (六) 11:32 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-16T11:32:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-07-16T11:32:00.000Z-\u4e0b\u5761\u89d2","replies":[]}}-->

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大字

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  • 閣下要不要建立些模板放這些新建的大字條目?例如建個某某街,然後放該街的大字。或是用現在地名,例如高雄就有這樣的模板。這樣也比較不會讓這些大字變成孤立頁面。--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年7月18日 (一) 13:59 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-07-18T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-07-18T13:59:00.000Z-\u5927\u5b57","replies":[]}}-->
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給您的星章!

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感謝持續大量貢獻眾多台灣小地名條目。 -和平、奮鬥、救地球!留言WikiNews2016年8月9日 (二) 11:25 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-09T11:25:00.000Z","author":"\u548c\u5e73-bot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u548c\u5e73-bot-2016-08-09T11:25:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u7684\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_3","replies":[]}}-->
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Nikolai Noskov and Philipp Kirkorov

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Hello dear Kolyma! I don't understand Chinese language, but for you doing the order: You can make let your Chinese language about musician Philip Kirkorov and Nikolai Noskov article? If you put these articles, I will be very grateful to you! Thank you! --217.66.158.39留言2016年8月17日 (三) 14:36 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-17T14:36:00.000Z","author":"217.66.158.39","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-217.66.158.39-2016-08-17T14:36:00.000Z-Nikolai_Noskov_and_Philipp_Kirkorov","replies":[]}}-->

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有关最近创建的消歧义页面

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您好。请不要忘记在消歧义页面最后加{{disambig}}模板哦~ --Techyan留言2016年8月21日 (日) 16:04 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-21T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Techyan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Techyan-2016-08-21T16:04:00.000Z-\u6709\u5173\u6700\u8fd1\u521b\u5efa\u7684\u6d88\u6b67\u4e49\u9875\u9762","replies":[]}}-->

Talk:香港本土力量 (2015年)建議改名:“香港本土力量 (2015年)”→“香港本土力量”

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你在王功編輯以錯誤內容為由而移除是違反中立觀點方針

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管理員在這筆編輯移除其內容,只因為你說「《臺灣堡圖》上已寫為「王功」」就認定是這段內容所寫是錯誤,這並不符合中立觀點方針,這點相信管理員是十分清楚維基百科每一個方針指引,所以我將其移除內容給補回,但你還是可以根據你自己找到的來源添加進去做為佐證,即便是錯誤的,那也是個人看法,用「正確、錯誤」做為內容的存留依據是悖離中立觀點所寫「中立」二字之用意,只要有來源的內容,其實是不能擅自用自己的理由想移除就移除的,這樣做就可能有破壞之嫌,這點相信管理員也是十分清楚維基百科的這道底線,就算你自己認為不算是,若是忽略旁人的感受,造成這樣的誤會也是會帶給你麻煩與困擾,管理員的一舉一動都要謹慎才行,望你可以能做好管理員,別再發生此事。--36.233.187.174留言2016年8月25日 (四) 16:30 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-25T16:30:00.000Z","author":"36.233.187.174","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:30:00.000Z-\u4f60\u5728\u738b\u529f\u7de8\u8f2f\u4ee5\u932f\u8aa4\u5167\u5bb9\u70ba\u7531\u800c\u79fb\u9664\u662f\u9055\u53cd\u4e2d\u7acb\u89c0\u9ede\u65b9\u91dd","replies":["c-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:44:00.000Z-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

若是你覺得內容錯誤被移除並無不妥,但我看方針指引沒有規定能容許這麼做的,假如有這樣規定的話,那問題就出來了,方針指引是彼此之間有抵觸,或許你或別人可能不會認為有這樣問題,卻也不見得每個人這麼看的;就現在而言,我只知道中立觀點不能容許你這麼做的,至於是不是真的有其它規定能這麼做,我並不是很清楚(至少我現在沒看到),就算有,也是不能忽略中立觀點存在而去違反,這應該是每個人都會在維基百科所基本遵守的編輯行為上規範,所以我有義務去回退或補回,若是有冒犯管理員之處,請多見諒。--36.233.187.174留言2016年8月25日 (四) 16:44 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-25T16:44:00.000Z","author":"36.233.187.174","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:44:00.000Z-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-26T11:21:00.000Z-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
WP:V:來自於可靠來源的內容亦可能有誤,而若該內容能被其他可靠來源證明為錯誤,則亦有可能被刪除。--Kolyma留言2016年8月26日 (五) 11:21 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T11:21:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-26T11:21:00.000Z-36.233.187.174-2016-08-25T16:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-36.233.253.208-2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-26T11:21:00.000Z"]}}-->
管理員在獲選之前,不是應該要對每一方針指引都做到瞭解與遵從,怎麼你獲選了,還會有這問題,是因為獲得管理權就不用遵從了嗎?請你不要刻意只選擇WP:V,我對你提醒過了,請你不要再忽視中立觀點,建議你需要重新再詳讀WP:POV方針,你那套說法根本不管用,來源證明為錯誤可被移除是違反中立觀點,你這麼做也只是符合可供查證,況且方針有規定:「可供查證是不能凌駕於中立性之上」,所以請管理員不要再做出這種自以為是內容錯誤就該被移除的念頭而去進行破壞,有來源的內容都不應該被移除的,這是我最後一次提醒,請管理員適可而止。--36.233.253.208留言2016年8月26日 (五) 16:59 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z","author":"36.233.253.208","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-36.233.253.208-2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-26T11:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:06:00.000Z-36.233.253.208-2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z","c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:08:00.000Z-36.233.253.208-2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
「來源證明為錯誤可被移除是違反中立觀點」依據何在?倘若找不到,只是利用「可供查證是不能凌駕於中立性之上」作推論,那麼只能算是您的個人見解。--Kolyma留言) 2016年8月27日 (六) 02:06 (UTC)--Kolyma留言2016年8月27日 (六) 02:10 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-27T02:06:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:06:00.000Z-36.233.253.208-2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:50:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
別那麼死板,當然沒有這樣寫,只是規定上有這種表達之意,總不可能什麼情況全列出來再逐一規定在裡頭吧!從你說「只是利用『可供查證是不能凌駕於中立性之上』作推論,那麼只能算是您的個人見解」這話來看,可見你是根本沒有在看WP:POV,找不到「可供查證是不能凌駕於中立性之上」這句話有寫就賴在我頭上說是我自己推論出來,好像我假藉方針去編造似的;你這管理員當初在參選時,到底是有沒有在讀方針呀?你找不到就說嘛,何必誣蔑他人。你有沒有看到「中立性爭議及其處理」這一欄底下各種規定所列,我可不是叫你只看「中立性爭議及其處理」這行字唷,可別又理解錯意思了。--36.233.185.21留言2016年8月29日 (一) 16:50 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-29T16:50:00.000Z","author":"36.233.185.21","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:50:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
既然沒有證據,不是推論,那又該叫什麼?--Kolyma留言2016年8月30日 (二) 11:43 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
如果您要主張「來源證明為錯誤可被移除是違反中立觀點」,請到客棧提議修改WP:V。--Kolyma留言2016年8月27日 (六) 02:08 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-27T02:08:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:08:00.000Z-36.233.253.208-2016-08-26T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:43:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
這不是我自己說的,而是根據WP:POV,何來主張?而且我也是與你一樣在根據方針去執行,不明白為什麼會被你認定是在主張?修改WP:V是社群的問題,我只是執行者,管不到那裡去。--36.233.185.21留言2016年8月29日 (一) 16:43 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-29T16:43:00.000Z","author":"36.233.185.21","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:43:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-27T02:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
WP:POV無此內容,明顯是您自己的見解。--Kolyma留言2016年8月30日 (二) 11:43 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z-36.233.185.21-2016-08-29T16:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-36.233.250.85-2016-09-04T17:18:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
因為你刻意選擇視而不見,執意去認定屬於我的見解,像你這樣預設立場(認定某來源錯誤而你找到來源才是正確)的做法,早已經忽視WP:POV所規定,恐非我所能干預了你的,更何況你還是管理員,早已超出一般用戶的權限,自然是有權可以不採信任何人說的話。就如先前我所說,不是沒找到就等於是沒規定,也不是規定只針對這種情況去死板板地寫明才算是叫有這樣規定;如果你不能放下一己之見,執意用「何者是錯誤、何者是正確」這種心態去篩選,並選擇錯誤非得要移除,這樣做就是違反WP:POV,因為符合可供查證的內容在無論正確或錯誤情況下是不能被移除的。--36.233.250.85留言2016年9月4日 (日) 17:18 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-04T17:18:00.000Z","author":"36.233.250.85","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-36.233.250.85-2016-09-04T17:18:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-30T11:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

我已盡到告知義務,並累積達到五次與你溝通,但你依然執意己見,還有你在王功編輯紀錄反復進行違反WP:POV相同舉動超過三次,故視為溝通無效,交由當前的破壞去處理,特此通知。--36.233.250.85留言2016年9月4日 (日) 17:35 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-04T17:35:00.000Z","author":"36.233.250.85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-36.233.250.85-2016-09-04T17:35:00.000Z-\u4f60\u5728\u738b\u529f\u7de8\u8f2f\u4ee5\u932f\u8aa4\u5167\u5bb9\u70ba\u7531\u800c\u79fb\u9664\u662f\u9055\u53cd\u4e2d\u7acb\u89c0\u9ede\u65b9\u91dd","replies":[]}}-->

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我看你寫的條目,可以問你的私事嗎?

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你之前似乎都集中於創建基隆、臺北、新北一帶的地名(大字)條目,從編輯記錄就可以查到,可是比較令人想問的是,原本在寫北部的條目,你怎麼會突然一跳就跳那麼遠去寫彰化一帶的地名(大字)條目,看起來像是有經過選擇似的,我以為你是北部人才會寫北部的條目,彰化會不會是你老家或出生地?--114.38.190.12留言2016年8月26日 (五) 13:07 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T13:07:00.000Z","author":"114.38.190.12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:07:00.000Z-\u6211\u770b\u4f60\u5beb\u7684\u689d\u76ee\uff0c\u53ef\u4ee5\u554f\u4f60\u7684\u79c1\u4e8b\u55ce\uff1f","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-26T13:15:00.000Z-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

都不是。只是想寫寫中部地區,看到奇特的地名就下筆而已。--Kolyma留言2016年8月26日 (五) 13:15 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T13:15:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-26T13:15:00.000Z-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:17:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-26T13:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
假如你與彰化是有些淵源才有興趣去寫彰化一帶的地名(大字)條目,那麼我也有一件事想問在地人。彰化東區似乎也能被寫條目,可是它並不是地名(大字),卻又不知它是位在彰化的哪裡,具體所指「東區」是什麼,論發展性,這與臺北所謂的「東區」實在相差太遠,卻也能叫東區。--114.38.190.12留言2016年8月26日 (五) 13:17 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T13:17:00.000Z","author":"114.38.190.12","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:17:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-26T13:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-26T13:22:00.000Z-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
抱歉,我對彰化不熟,也沒聽說過「彰化東區」。--Kolyma留言2016年8月26日 (五) 13:22 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-26T13:22:00.000Z-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

我看你給出的來源,好像沒看過你有去引用《臺灣地名辭書》,照邏輯而言,要寫地名(大字)此類的條目,這本書算是參考用書,沒用上是不是它裡面寫的資料足夠被你現在給出的來源所替代掉,所以沒打算推薦使用《臺灣地名辭書》這本書?我個人覺得它很好用,雖然在山區原住民部落沒法從這本書找到更多介紹,至少已經網羅很多閩客聚落的地名與日治時期的大字,你覺得呢?--114.38.190.12留言2016年8月26日 (五) 13:33 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-26T13:33:00.000Z","author":"114.38.190.12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:33:00.000Z-\u6211\u770b\u4f60\u5beb\u7684\u689d\u76ee\uff0c\u53ef\u4ee5\u554f\u4f60\u7684\u79c1\u4e8b\u55ce\uff1f","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T01:46:00.000Z-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

沒看到網路版,不方便。--Kolyma留言2016年8月27日 (六) 01:46 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-27T01:46:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T01:46:00.000Z-114.38.190.12-2016-08-26T13:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

砂拉越翻译与编辑

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邀請您參與本次的條目協作計劃

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請保護該條目王功

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管理員其實可不必理會出於擾亂編輯的IP,編輯戰問題我已經呈報保護該條目王功,你也可以有管理員權限對這位IP封鎖其擾亂行為。不過你有這麼耐心與氣度對他解釋並不封鎖,其舉止實在令人感佩!你被選為管理員,這果然是適得其所。--114.46.235.186留言2016年8月27日 (六) 12:28 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-27T12:28:00.000Z","author":"114.46.235.186","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.46.235.186-2016-08-27T12:28:00.000Z-\u8acb\u4fdd\u8b77\u8a72\u689d\u76ee\u738b\u529f","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T12:34:00.000Z-114.46.235.186-2016-08-27T12:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

WP:ADM#避嫌。--Kolyma留言2016年8月27日 (六) 12:34 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-27T12:34:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-08-27T12:34:00.000Z-114.46.235.186-2016-08-27T12:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-114.46.235.186-2016-08-27T12:38:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-27T12:34:00.000Z"]}}-->
太厲害了!--114.46.235.186留言2016年8月27日 (六) 12:38 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-08-27T12:38:00.000Z","author":"114.46.235.186","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-114.46.235.186-2016-08-27T12:38:00.000Z-Kolyma-2016-08-27T12:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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桃仔的「脚」、「腳」,哪一隻才是它的?

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我看你是將桃仔脚庄重定向至桃子腳條目,然而我看到的桃子腳條目卻是寫:「桃子腳,原寫為桃仔腳」,不知道你是條目寫錯,還是說你原本想將桃子腳庄重定向至桃仔脚條目,只是你誤將二者間給誤植而顛倒?--114.46.237.213留言2016年9月6日 (二) 11:55 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z","author":"114.46.237.213","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z-\u6843\u4ed4\u7684\u300c-{\u811a}-\u300d\u3001\u300c-{\u8173}-\u300d\uff0c\u54ea\u4e00\u96bb\u624d\u662f\u5b83\u7684\uff1f","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-09-06T12:08:00.000Z-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z","c-Kolyma-2016-09-06T12:12:00.000Z-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z","c-Kolyma-2016-09-06T12:14:00.000Z-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

查了一下條目編輯歷史,確認我創建時是「桃仔腳庄」,是被人以「簡繁混用」為由移動至「桃仔脚庄」。--Kolyma留言2016年9月6日 (二) 12:08 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-06T12:08:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-09-06T12:08:00.000Z-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
在台灣「脚」是異體字,本階段我都一律用「腳」字。中國大陸用戶的認知不同,常會發生類似問題。我覺得傳達知識最重要,簡體、繁體或正體、異體重要性相對而言沒那麼高,本階段暫不處理。--Kolyma留言2016年9月6日 (二) 12:12 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-06T12:12:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-09-06T12:12:00.000Z-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
當全台大字、町級條目都完成後,如果還有時間,會回過頭再全面檢視一遍。--Kolyma留言2016年9月6日 (二) 12:14 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-06T12:14:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-09-06T12:14:00.000Z-114.46.237.213-2016-09-06T11:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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挖子 (彰化縣)

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您好,想請問挖仔 (彰化縣二林鎮)重定向至挖子 (彰化縣)是否妥當呢?因為依在下了解(讀您的條目),彰化二林的挖仔應為舊稱。在下為巡查新手,且對地名方面的條目不熟悉,故來向前輩請教,希望沒有打擾到您。祝編安。—— 烈羽 2016年9月6日 (二) 16:23 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-06T16:23:00.000Z","author":"\u70c8\u7fbd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-06T16:23:00.000Z-\u6316\u5b50_(\u5f70\u5316\u7e23)","replies":["c-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-08T05:44:00.000Z-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-06T16:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

那請問現在這樣應該要如何處理呢,是將挖仔重定向至挖子、並將挖仔 (彰化縣二林鎮)提刪嗎?—— 烈羽 2016年9月8日 (四) 05:44 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-08T05:44:00.000Z","author":"\u70c8\u7fbd","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-08T05:44:00.000Z-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-06T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-08T23:16:00.000Z-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-08T05:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
好的,那就先放著不動。謝謝您~—— 烈羽 2016年9月8日 (四) 23:16 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-08T23:16:00.000Z","author":"\u70c8\u7fbd","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-08T23:16:00.000Z-\u70c8\u7fbd-2016-09-08T05:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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re:王功

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您好。由於我上線的時間不穩定(我是自己抓零碎休息時間上維基百科),所以您提到的條目問題我實在無暇細看,抱歉。--秋意假髮濃(我已關閉了所有通知,所以@我看不到)留言2016年9月7日 (三) 17:50 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-07T17:50:00.000Z","author":"\u79cb\u610f\u5047\u9aee\u6fc3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u79cb\u610f\u5047\u9aee\u6fc3-2016-09-07T17:50:00.000Z-re:\u738b\u529f","replies":[],"displayName":"\u79cb\u610f\u5047\u9aee\u6fc3(\u6211\u5df2\u95dc\u9589\u4e86\u6240\u6709\u901a\u77e5\uff0c\u6240\u4ee5@\u6211\u770b\u4e0d\u5230)"}}-->

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頂坡角

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您好,您編纂的頂坡角條目中,指該處為新莊最西。我查閱台灣堡圖,頂坡腳與十八份都在新莊的西側。從地圖上看來,今日新莊的西極點落在日本時代的十八份庄境。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年9月8日 (四) 04:44 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-08T04:44:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-09-08T04:44:00.000Z-\u9802\u5761\u89d2","replies":[]}}-->

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关于那个自行添加速删模板

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我猜是上一次删除之前提前保存了源码,然后直接复制过来又创建,但是忘记删掉模板。现在碍于对新用户的限制无法删除了吧。--Tiger留言2016年9月9日 (五) 13:29 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-09T13:29:00.000Z","author":"Tigerzeng","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tigerzeng-2016-09-09T13:29:00.000Z-\u5173\u4e8e\u90a3\u4e2a\u81ea\u884c\u6dfb\u52a0\u901f\u5220\u6a21\u677f","replies":[],"displayName":"Tiger"}}-->

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關於銀霞條目的答覆

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直接處理,免提報。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年9月11日 (日) 10:46 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-11T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-09-11T10:46:00.000Z-\u95dc\u65bc\u9280\u971e\u689d\u76ee\u7684\u7b54\u8986","replies":[]}}-->

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Re:我看你寫的條目,可以問你的私事嗎?

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上次拜訪之後,眼見你現在已經創建到苗栗縣的地名(大字)條目。不過,過程中好像看你有遇到困難,如“王功”的修订历史所見,其它你創建的條目就似乎沒什麼問題。你有想過要怎麼處理嗎?其實,我比較感興趣的是,在你所創建那麼多條目當中,為什麼就只有王功才有這種編輯上爭議呢?按照邏輯來看,別的條目都沒問題,王功也應該不至於有問題,感覺倒像是有人刻意挑王功這條目才有此類問題。

對於你創建的條目,我做在這裡做個附議。有鑑於你創建的地名(大字)條目多以日治時期的街庄做為概念,隨著這樣的條目數量逐漸增多,我是覺得有必要讓讀者知道地理位置,所以建議每一個街庄、地名(大字)都附上一張地理位置圖,就比如你提供的《臺灣堡圖》,好讓讀者從圖上就知道它的位置、範圍以及周邊毗鄰的行政區。--114.38.191.109留言2016年9月12日 (一) 13:45 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-12T13:45:00.000Z","author":"114.38.191.109","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.38.191.109-2016-09-12T13:45:00.000Z-Re:\u6211\u770b\u4f60\u5beb\u7684\u689d\u76ee\uff0c\u53ef\u4ee5\u554f\u4f60\u7684\u79c1\u4e8b\u55ce\uff1f","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-09-12T14:32:00.000Z-114.38.191.109-2016-09-12T13:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

沒那麼多時間。--Kolyma留言2016年9月12日 (一) 14:32 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-12T14:32:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-09-12T14:32:00.000Z-114.38.191.109-2016-09-12T13:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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关于岳东晓

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Kolyma 君,您好!

那么关于岳东晓中大量的明显宣传广告,无可靠来源,過於依赖第一手来源,误导虚假等问题如何处理呢?

词条说岳是学者,而岳学校毕业后的20多年中,没做过一天专业研究工作,没发表过一个字的学术论文,这学者从何说起呢。在网上上帖子就可算学者吗?

词条介绍了岳的物理研究。岳的全部物理研究就是读博期间,在导师指导下发过两篇文章。这是非常普通的博士论文的工作。这就是岳的全部物理研究。有哪个生者传记把普通博士论文的内容在词条中介绍的呢。

词条说岳创立了一个科技公司。其实就一化几十美金注册的没有一个专职员工的皮包公司,用来推销其开发的一个小软件。

词条说岳赢了那个产权官司。其实那只是初审判决的结果。二审(终审)没有维持原判,最后是庭外和解。另一个告SUN的案子,词条说是庭外和解,实际是岳被判罚22万美金。。。。。这些都被人用法庭文件的铁证揭露过。


。。。。。。

每一小节基本都是这样的或更差。就不一一列出了。需要的话,可以找到大量完全和词条内容相反的可靠证据。

如此明显的虚假宣传如何处置,想听听你的意见。

另外,可否/如何建立一个专门讨论此词条的页面?

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TA模板

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  • 在模板中放TA模板,引用這個模板的條目就會跟著加入這個TA模板,雖然不會造成什麼大問題,不過模板中還是直接用-{}-解決轉換問題會比較好吧?--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年9月25日 (日) 15:16 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-25T15:16:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-09-25T15:16:00.000Z-TA\u6a21\u677f","replies":[]}}-->
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「嘉慶中興」條目的快速刪除問題

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嘉慶中興」條目的內容除最後一句外均直接複製自嘉慶帝#.E8.A9.95.E5.83.B9,應該屬於A3,希望請閣下再看一次。--【和平至上】《💬》《📝》 2016年9月29日 (四) 10:59 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-29T10:59:00.000Z","author":"\u548c\u5e73\u81f3\u4e0a","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u548c\u5e73\u81f3\u4e0a-2016-09-29T10:59:00.000Z-\u300c\u5609\u6176\u4e2d\u8208\u300d\u689d\u76ee\u7684\u5feb\u901f\u522a\u9664\u554f\u984c","replies":[],"displayName":"\u3010\u548c\u5e73\u81f3\u4e0a\u3011"}}-->

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地名參考書目

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Kolyma兄您好:

我是Jasonzhuocn。台灣地名辭書在公共圖書館通常屬於不外借的參考書。幸運的是,新北圖的其中一間分館剛好有一套台灣地名辭書是可以外借的,可以預約到鄰近分館之後再去取書。

另,陳正祥老師的臺灣地名辭典也滿適合參考的,如果對地名很有興趣,這本很值得收藏,也很適合供作參考。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年10月1日 (六) 17:36 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-01T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-01T17:36:00.000Z-\u5730\u540d\u53c3\u8003\u66f8\u76ee","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-03T08:17:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-01T17:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

其實還在,http://gissrv3.sinica.edu.tw/search/ 選一個政區以後,它在地名清單裡面,只少了照片打不開而已。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年10月3日 (一) 08:17 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-03T08:17:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-03T08:17:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-01T17:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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李彥秀

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麻煩你了! 感恩! Zenk0113留言2016年10月5日 (三) 13:17 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-05T13:17:00.000Z","author":"Zenk0113","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zenk0113-2016-10-05T13:17:00.000Z-\u674e\u5f65\u79c0","replies":[]}}-->

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特定帳號持續濫加過時資訊

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Hi, Kolyma管理員,看到您保護了政區相關條目。61.64.180.237Ketsu1213等帳號持續濫加早已不存的所謂「省會」與所在地等資訊,並動及通用模板,且不受3rr限制,請複查處理。感謝!--WildCursive留言2016年10月12日 (三) 02:14 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z","author":"Wildcursive","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z-\u7279\u5b9a\u5e33\u865f\u6301\u7e8c\u6feb\u52a0\u904e\u6642\u8cc7\u8a0a","replies":["c-Wildcursive-2016-10-13T13:43:00.000Z-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z","c-Signmin-2016-10-15T02:43:00.000Z-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z","c-Signmin-2016-10-15T14:35:00.000Z-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

這兩個帳號都執意在臺灣省 ‎福建省 (中華民國) ‎添加已過時且錯誤的「省會 南投縣南投市中興新村(省政府駐地)」與「省會 金門縣金城鎮(省政府駐地)」,在「國家語言」已將法制化之際還逕自使用落伍的「方言」一詞。其他編輯也有可疑之處,但不確定是否跟維基百科:持續出沒的破壞者/User:蘇俞安有關?--WildCursive留言2016年10月13日 (四) 13:43 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-13T13:43:00.000Z","author":"Wildcursive","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wildcursive-2016-10-13T13:43:00.000Z-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
我也有發現該問題,昨天已經把Template:中華民國行政區劃基礎資訊變更回尚未被該用戶和IP破壞的版本(Liaon98大大做出的最後編輯),還希望@Wildcursive大能幫忙恢復各個縣市條目被破壞的地方或是維護該模板。視情況可能需要向管理員提出蓄意破壞的半保護(但我去看該用戶已經編輯超過50次,而且註冊今天就滿一週了,效果可能不夠大……) -Signmin留言2016年10月15日 (六) 02:43 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-15T02:43:00.000Z","author":"Signmin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Signmin-2016-10-15T02:43:00.000Z-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
(~)補充編輯者(User:Ketsu1213)已經出面在討論頁上說明想如何變動模板了,還希望有空的人可以幫忙過去Template_talk:中華民國行政區劃基礎資訊#模版順序調整及部分內容修改看看並做出回應。 -Signmin留言2016年10月15日 (六) 14:35 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-15T14:35:00.000Z","author":"Signmin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Signmin-2016-10-15T14:35:00.000Z-Wildcursive-2016-10-12T02:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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给您一个星章!

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不倦星章
閣下總是在為管理員作出回應,在此發星章以示感謝! 沉迷酒色的人自加入維基已有195天簽名請按此發表於 2016年10月12日 (三) 08:38 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-12T08:38:00.000Z","author":"H2244932","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-H2244932-2016-10-12T08:38:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_4","replies":[],"displayName":"\u6c89\u8ff7\u9152\u8272\u7684\u4eba"}}-->
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日治時期大字

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真是感謝你創立這些調目啊XD,我覺得可以提這些大字涵蓋了今日的哪些村里。Hoin1585留言2016年10月14日 (三) 02:27 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-14T02:27:00.000Z","author":"Hoin15853","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hoin15853-2016-10-14T02:27:00.000Z-\u65e5\u6cbb\u6642\u671f\u5927\u5b57","replies":[]}}-->


關西街最早閣下建立時,並不包含馬武督大字,這跟我的印象相符(屬於新竹郡蕃地),但之後的修訂,被其他加進去了,閣下可以幫忙複查一下嗎--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年10月15日 (六) 12:36 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-15T12:36:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-10-15T12:36:00.000Z-\u65e5\u6cbb\u6642\u671f\u5927\u5b57","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-10-15T14:42:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-15T12:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

剛查了府令,似乎是蕃地大竹坑、舊馬武督、六畜、赤柯山等地改為關西庄大字馬武督,原四地名改為馬武督下的小字;而原蕃地應該還剩下竹頭、馬武督兩大字--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年10月15日 (六) 14:42 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-15T14:42:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-10-15T14:42:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-15T12:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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台湾国管理员什么意思呀

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江泽民事件,你要不删了我也写蔡英文同名人物。--追迹未来 2016年10月19日 (三) 12:17 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-19T12:17:00.000Z","author":"\u8ffd\u8ff9\u672a\u6765","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u8ffd\u8ff9\u672a\u6765-2016-10-19T12:17:00.000Z-\u53f0\u6e7e\u56fd\u7ba1\u7406\u5458\u4ec0\u4e48\u610f\u601d\u5440","replies":[]}}-->

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大字亦改制為里

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我認為在一些條目中,「大字亦改制為里」這句陳述並不妥當,有許多大字在二次戰後並沒有改為村里,而且不是孤例。我去國圖翻閱臺北縣志開闢志,查閱了各鄉鎮的創始村里,發現有一些大字的名字是直接被捨棄的,例如丹鳳里就是戰後合併幾個大字而另起的建制,戰後並沒有頂坡角或下坡角這樣的村里名。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年10月20日 (四) 14:05 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-20T14:05:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:05:00.000Z-\u5927\u5b57\u4ea6\u6539\u5236\u70ba\u91cc","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-10-20T14:11:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:05:00.000Z","c-Liaon98-2016-10-21T14:57:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

我在別地方看到的說法反而是大字改制為地段,村里是保甲改制的...--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年10月20日 (四) 14:11 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-20T14:11:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-10-20T14:11:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:30:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-20T14:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
  1. 這需要專業來釐清,以往的資料可能不足夠。Koika在研究所就是研究這個的,Koika提出資料證明,在臺南市存在兩套系統並行,推翻了一部分先前的研究。詳情請看paper翻答案。
  2. 現在編撰百科全書如果選寫這麼細題目來寫,不可避免的就會深入到那個領域的專業,還是必須要下些功夫。不像維基百科剛開始的頭幾年,編撰的題目幾乎都是中學教育涵蓋的範圍,篇幅幾乎都在三五百字以內,難度並不高,不用翻書也能寫。現在要寫那麼細又那麼深入,還是多翻書吧。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年10月20日 (四) 14:30 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-20T14:30:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:30:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-20T14:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
話說我其實覺得條目名的消歧義不建議用「(大字)」的說,因為這些地名有些到現在還在用,用括號大字變成像是這個條目專門在講1920~1945的歷史一樣,我記得有幾個條目閣下是用「(地名)」來命名的,是不是比較好?--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年10月21日 (五) 14:57 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-21T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-10-21T14:57:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-10-20T14:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Liaon98-2016-10-21T15:19:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-21T14:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
我的重點在於該地名不是只在1920~1945使用,所以不該命名為大字來縮限,不然就會像比如台北市 (州轄市)條目內卻講到非州轄市時期的台北市一樣奇怪。如果地名跟上級相同,也是有左營 (左營區)前鎮 (前鎮區)的命名方式,所以命名為內湖 (內湖區)也無不可--Liaon98 我是廢物 2016年10月21日 (五) 15:19 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-21T15:19:00.000Z","author":"Liaon98","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Liaon98-2016-10-21T15:19:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-21T14:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-10-21T15:35:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-21T15:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
我先前也曾這樣命名過,說實在也忘了後來為何而改?--Kolyma留言2016年10月21日 (五) 15:35 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-21T15:35:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-10-21T15:35:00.000Z-Liaon98-2016-10-21T15:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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请求管理员协助

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回退User:V121640549违反先到先得原则的众多移动,如強烈颱風查特安強烈颱風梅米 (2001年)。--7留言2016年10月24日 (一) 11:21 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-24T11:21:00.000Z","author":"Jarodalien","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jarodalien-2016-10-24T11:21:00.000Z-\u8bf7\u6c42\u7ba1\u7406\u5458\u534f\u52a9","replies":[],"displayName":"7"}}-->

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請求管理員協助還原大量條目

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請求管理員協助:有位名稱為Towatw的用戶,在大量與台灣相關條目的對話頁中為條目評級,但許多都沒有依照標準。雖然我已經幫忙改正一些了,但因為他編輯過的對話頁數量眾多,希望請求管理員協助還原。 --Signmin留言2016年10月25日 (二) 16:25 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-25T16:25:00.000Z","author":"Signmin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:25:00.000Z-\u8acb\u6c42\u7ba1\u7406\u54e1\u5354\u52a9\u9084\u539f\u5927\u91cf\u689d\u76ee","replies":["c-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:44:00.000Z-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

確實不用,可是數量有點多,所以希望能有管理員或其他人幫忙(我簡單數一下約兩百多個條目)一個一個還原的話……原本是想說不知道管理員有沒有工具可以幫忙,如果沒有的話我明天再努力還原了QQ --Signmin留言2016年10月25日 (二) 16:44 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-25T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Signmin","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:44:00.000Z-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
好的了解,打擾您了。 --Signmin留言2016年10月25日 (二) 16:47 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-25T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Signmin","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:47:00.000Z-Signmin-2016-10-25T16:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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大量香港演员条目被胡乱删改出生日期

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Special:用户贡献/175.144.158.80大量删改香港演员的出生日期的数字,频密至间隔数秒钟,根本不是正当的删改,经查证后全部出生日期都被改早5至10年。已提报WP:VIP,并须要批量回退。谢谢!--Thomas.Lu留言2016年10月28日 (五) 08:39 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-28T08:39:00.000Z","author":"Thomas.Lu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thomas.Lu-2016-10-28T08:39:00.000Z-\u5927\u91cf\u9999\u6e2f\u6f14\u5458\u6761\u76ee\u88ab\u80e1\u4e71\u5220\u6539\u51fa\u751f\u65e5\u671f","replies":[]}}-->

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關於「反對範圍太大的專題及其評級」

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我對您在使用者討論:Signmin提到您「反對範圍太大的專題及其評級」感到好奇,是否能請您更詳細地說明原因?--Towatw留言2016年10月28日 (五) 17:18 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-28T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Towatw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Towatw-2016-10-28T17:18:00.000Z-\u95dc\u65bc\u300c\u53cd\u5c0d\u7bc4\u570d\u592a\u5927\u7684\u5c08\u984c\u53ca\u5176\u8a55\u7d1a\u300d","replies":[]}}-->

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求聯署

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請協聯合解職與封禁Outlookp,中文維基百科史上最胡作非為的管理員,不止充滿臺獨思想,多次莫虛有聯合迫害無辜有良心的人 [3],讓中文維基百科陷入黑暗,其心可誅,應與解職永久封禁。--111.82.186.194留言2016年11月4日 (五) 16:01 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-04T16:01:00.000Z","author":"111.82.186.194","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-111.82.186.194-2016-11-04T16:01:00.000Z-\u6c42\u806f\u7f72","replies":[]}}-->

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如何回覆台灣媽祖聯誼會?

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要另外新增條目編輯嗎? csf1996留言2016年11月12日 (六) 12:04 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T12:04:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-11-12T12:04:00.000Z-\u5982\u4f55\u56de\u8986\u53f0\u7063\u5abd\u7956\u806f\u8abc\u6703\uff1f","replies":[]}}-->

我想新增主題條目做修改編輯,可以新增嗎 csf1996留言2016年11月12日 (六) 14:40 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T14:40:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-11-12T14:40:00.000Z-\u5982\u4f55\u56de\u8986\u53f0\u7063\u5abd\u7956\u806f\u8abc\u6703\uff1f","replies":[]}}-->

是說有辦法嗎? csf1996留言2016年11月12日 (六) 14:41 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-12T14:41:00.000Z","author":"Csf1996","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Csf1996-2016-11-12T14:41:00.000Z-\u5982\u4f55\u56de\u8986\u53f0\u7063\u5abd\u7956\u806f\u8abc\u6703\uff1f","replies":[]}}-->

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新舊對照管轄便覽

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您好,請問您所參考的新舊對照管轄便覽是哪一個版本的? --Jasonzhuocn留言2016年11月21日 (一) 15:51 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-21T15:51:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-21T15:51:00.000Z-\u65b0\u820a\u5c0d\u7167\u7ba1\u8f44\u4fbf\u89bd","replies":[]}}-->

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地名不再使用

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您好,我認為在各方面都不再使用的歷史地名,不適合在條目內添加21世紀的現代內容。例如五股區的新塭。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年11月23日 (三) 13:41 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-23T13:41:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T13:41:00.000Z-\u5730\u540d\u4e0d\u518d\u4f7f\u7528","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T14:33:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T13:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

看來地籍和大字的範圍不同。這個物件的位置好像在新塭庄之外了。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年11月23日 (三) 14:33 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-23T14:33:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T14:33:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T13:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-26T03:10:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T14:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
謝,新塭的資料我看到了。--Jasonzhuocn留言2016年11月26日 (六) 03:10 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-26T03:10:00.000Z","author":"Jasonzhuocn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-26T03:10:00.000Z-Jasonzhuocn-2016-11-23T14:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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关于广州市电车路线114路

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如果复制自己算不算,广州无轨电车。——路过围观的Sakamotosan 2016年11月25日 (五) 00:28 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-25T00:28:00.000Z","author":"Cwek","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cwek-2016-11-25T00:28:00.000Z-\u5173\u4e8e\u5e7f\u5dde\u5e02\u7535\u8f66\u8def\u7ebf114\u8def","replies":["c-183.240.19.209-2016-11-25T11:32:00.000Z-Cwek-2016-11-25T00:28:00.000Z"]}}-->

广州市电车路线114路原来是独立条目,2016年6月22日被118.103.168.18并入广州无轨电车。2016年11月24日重新分拆为独立条目,被并入广州无轨电车的内容已删除。请管理员尽快恢复条目,谢谢。--183.240.19.209留言2016年11月25日 (五) 11:32 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-25T11:32:00.000Z","author":"183.240.19.209","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-183.240.19.209-2016-11-25T11:32:00.000Z-Cwek-2016-11-25T00:28:00.000Z","replies":["c-183.240.20.195-2016-11-26T02:33:00.000Z-183.240.19.209-2016-11-25T11:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
广州市电车路线114路的创建日期早于2015年,创建时未与广州无轨电车重复。--183.240.20.195留言2016年11月26日 (六) 02:33 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-26T02:33:00.000Z","author":"183.240.20.195","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-183.240.20.195-2016-11-26T02:33:00.000Z-183.240.19.209-2016-11-25T11:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kolyma-2016-11-26T03:18:00.000Z-183.240.20.195-2016-11-26T02:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
那個條目不是我刪除的,請聯絡執行刪除的管理人員(User:AT),或前往Wikipedia:存廢覆核請求提交申請。--Kolyma留言2016年11月26日 (六) 03:18 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-26T03:18:00.000Z","author":"Kolyma","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kolyma-2016-11-26T03:18:00.000Z-183.240.20.195-2016-11-26T02:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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用戶隨意意動條目

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你好,用戶南方的小鳥,移動了一系條目。主要問題,1. 未先提出討論或是提供理由;2. 用剪貼方式移動,原條目提出速刪;3. 僅移動分類,條目底下的分類沒有批次移動。這種作法會造成條目的混亂,也可能造成紛爭。我在他個人討論頁及客棧皆已經提出討論,他仍然持續進行移動,請管理員閣下協助注意。--Alfredo ougaowen留言2016年11月27日 (日) 05:30 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-27T05:30:00.000Z","author":"Alfredo ougaowen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alfredo_ougaowen-2016-11-27T05:30:00.000Z-\u7528\u6236\u96a8\u610f\u610f\u52d5\u689d\u76ee","replies":[]}}-->

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協助

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目前Uus移動已有共識,可否請你幫我移動至Ts。-- Willy1018(留言) 2016年12月5日 (一) 11:11 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-05T11:11:00.000Z","author":"Willy1018","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Willy1018-2016-12-05T11:11:00.000Z-\u5354\u52a9","replies":[]}}-->

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協助移動

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Talk:Uuo move to Talk:OgTalk:Uut move to Talk:Nh。-- Willy1018(留言) 2016年12月5日 (一) 13:54 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-05T13:54:00.000Z","author":"Willy1018","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Willy1018-2016-12-05T13:54:00.000Z-\u5354\u52a9\u79fb\u52d5","replies":[]}}-->

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RE:有關翻譯用字差異的速刪

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多謝提醒。不過維基百科上,願意討論越南話題的人不多啊。半個多月前,我嘗試在互動客棧提出討論,希望就“市社”漢譯達成一個共識,但沒有幾個編輯參與討論。其次,越南的這些縣級政區大部分是我這半年來陸續創建的。當時因為詞條“市社”裏的不當表述(指越南方面將市社漢譯為鎮),我誤將所有市社以“XX鎮”的形式創建,現今越來越覺不妥,所以想一一更正,並刪去舊條目。此外,廣安市社广安市社這兩個繁簡條目指的是越南廣安市社,卻被錯誤地重定向到了中國河北省廊坊市廣安鎮,甚是不妥,希望您能幫忙解決這個問題。再次感謝!--大南國史館從九品筆帖式留言2016年12月9日 (五) 12:42 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-09T12:42:00.000Z","author":"\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:42:00.000Z-RE:\u6709\u95dc\u7ffb\u8b6f\u7528\u5b57\u5dee\u7570\u7684\u901f\u522a","replies":["c-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:48:00.000Z-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:42:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5927\u5357\u570b\u53f2\u9928\u5f9e\u4e5d\u54c1\u7b46\u5e16\u5f0f"}}-->

  • 越南廣安市社是廣安鎮 (越南)。--大南國史館從九品筆帖式留言2016年12月9日 (五) 12:48 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-09T12:48:00.000Z","author":"\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:48:00.000Z-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T13:06:00.000Z-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5927\u5357\u570b\u53f2\u9928\u5f9e\u4e5d\u54c1\u7b46\u5e16\u5f0f"}}-->
    • 明白,謝謝您。--大南國史館從九品筆帖式留言2016年12月9日 (五) 13:06 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-09T13:06:00.000Z","author":"\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T13:06:00.000Z-\u9010\u98ce\u5929\u5730-2016-12-09T12:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5927\u5357\u570b\u53f2\u9928\u5f9e\u4e5d\u54c1\u7b46\u5e16\u5f0f"}}-->
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没问题,欢迎修改,谢谢贡献!-- 慕尼黑啤酒  暢飲  2016年12月16日 (五) 01:18 (UTC)[回复]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-12-16T01:18:00.000Z","author":"\u6155\u5c3c\u9ed1\u5564\u9152","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u6155\u5c3c\u9ed1\u5564\u9152-2016-12-16T01:18:00.000Z-Re:\u6709\u95dc_Template:FormatNum","replies":[]}}-->

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